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09-10-2009 23:25
Frank Lansner
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BBC, Paul Hudson:
"It seems the debate about what is causing global warming is far from over. Indeed some would say its hotting up. "


http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/8299079.stm
10-10-2009 21:33
rick_uk
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Frank citeret:

another UN climate conference in Geneva where one of the UN's own leading climate scientists and computer modellers, Professor Mojib Latif from Germany's Leibniz Institute of Marine Sciences at Keil University, stated that from recent research he has conducted he has had to conclude that global warning has ceased.

Hvis man tager hele historien med:

To confuse the issue even further, last month Mojib Latif, a member of the IPCC (Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change) says that we may indeed be in a period of cooling worldwide temperatures that could last another 10-20 years.

Professor Latif is based at the Leibniz Institute of Marine Sciences at Kiel University in Germany and is one of the world's top climate modellers.

But he makes it clear that he has not become a sceptic; he believes that this cooling will be temporary, before the overwhelming force of man-made global warming reasserts itself.

Kilde
10-10-2009 23:12
Kosmos
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But he makes it clear that he has not become a sceptic; he believes that this cooling will be temporary, before the overwhelming force of man-made global warming reasserts itself

- hvortil en mindre ærbødig kommentator i 'Ingeniøren' bemærker:

Strammerne kan jo ikke tabe, ligesom at spille på både rød og sort på rouletten. Jojo, siger han, menneskeskabt global opvarming medfører jo nedkøling i 10-20 år endnu, det siger min forskning, bare send lidt flere penge, kun indtil jeg skal på pension og ikke mere bringes til ansvar
11-10-2009 15:32
Frank Lansner
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@Rick:
Tjah,
" a member of the IPCC... stated that from recent research he has conducted he has had to conclude that global warning has ceased."


Og så ser det ud til - som du påpeger - at han mener at det måske bare er en pause på nogle dekader.

Endnu en forsker der vurderer at temperaturstigningerne - i hvert fald i denne omgang - er stagneret.
Og de "IPCC-tro" vil jo ikke tage os jordnære skeptikeres ord for gode varer når vi siger at temperaturer er stagneret trods gennemsnittet af temperatur kilder rent faiktisk siger det.

Så kan det jo være 7-9-13 at i vil lytte til det hvis det kommer fra IPCC folk. (Det er jo det eneste argument der synes at tælle nu om stunder for nogle i denne debat.)
Redigeret d. 11-10-2009 15:36
11-10-2009 22:59
Frank Lansner
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Sunday Times bruger deres midtersektion til diverse skeptiske synspunkter. Lødigheden ved jeg ikke lige.. . Men redaktionen på mange store medier synes at have startet klimadebaten her 3-4 år efter at nogle søgte at forhindre debat ved at erklære den død.
http://tomnelson.blogspot.com/2009/10/sunday-times-goes-skeptic-big-time.html


Vindmøller er IN!! Vedvarende energi er IN!!!
Men vi må aldrig ofre ærlig og åben videnskab - heller ikke når det gælder klima.
Tilknyttet billede:


Redigeret d. 11-10-2009 23:12
13-10-2009 11:46
Frank Lansner
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Hvad er det egentligt bandet MUSE synger om?
En sang jeg har hørt tit spillet på DR:

http://www.lyricsmode.com/lyrics/m/muse/uprising.html

"Paranoia is in bloom,
...
And all the green belts wrapped around our minds,
And endless red tape to keep the truth confined"



Vindmøller er IN!! Vedvarende energi er IN!!!
Men vi må aldrig ofre ærlig og åben videnskab - heller ikke når det gælder klima.
22-10-2009 12:17
Frank Lansner
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James Delingpole,writer, journalist and broadcaster:
" I don't believe in conspiracy theories. Unfortunately, the Climate Fear Industry isn't a theory."


Telegraph.uk
23-10-2009 10:09
Frank Lansner
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http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/55912
22/10:
"China and India agreed Wednesday to work in unison, hardening their stance against accepting legally binding targets for reducing greenhouse gas emissions."
23-10-2009 12:20
Frank Lansner
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Brændeovne tegner sig for mere end halvdelen af partikeludslippet i Danmark. Personbilerne står kun for omkring to pct

http://fpn.dk/bolig/article1857126.ece

Altså 25 gange så meget partikelforurening fra brændeovne som fra biler...

Og der er 10 gange flere biler end brændovne?

Skønsmæssigt svarer én brændeovn målt i partikel forurening til over 100 biler? 250 biler?

Jeg kender da de første mange mennesker med brændeovn der tordner mod biler. ( Ikke at jeg selv er Harry..)
Redigeret d. 23-10-2009 12:21
23-10-2009 13:05
Mikkel R
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Altså 25 gange så meget partikelforurening fra brændeovne som fra biler...

Og der er 10 gange flere biler end brændovne


Så kan man jo undre sig over at interessen for miljøet leder til partikelfiltre for privatbillisten imens der overfor brændeovns-ejeren ikke er hverken afgifter eller krav om filtre (med tilhørende bøde selvsagt).
Lige indtil man overvejer om tiltagende egentligt er begrundet i miljø - eller om det er provenuet der er i fokus. Man får nu engang mere ud af at beskatte 2 millioner biler end 2 hundrede tusinde brændeovne.
24-10-2009 23:25
rick_uk
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TIMES ONLINE - om COP15:

At the centre of this meeting...is a 180-page document of negotiating text. The Kyoto Protocol, by contrast, which the Copenhagen agreement is meant to replace when it expires in 2012, ran to only 30 pages at the equivalent stage.

The most likely outcome may be a political commitment to cut emissions by mid-century and an agreement to keep wrangling over the details.

There is already talk of follow-up meetings next year. Copenhagen may merely mark the start of a long period of uncertainty over global carbon regulation that may take years to resolve.

Kilde
26-10-2009 21:32
rick_uk
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THE AGE - om COP15:

...the major participants have begun manoeuvring on how to stage-manage failure at Copenhagen and to set a new deadline for a treaty.

Kilde
29-10-2009 10:10
Frank Lansner
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Og her et fantastisk link:
http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2009-10/uop-ncs102809.php

Et super godt eksempel på hvor langt forskere er vant til at gå for at sige "CO2 did it" uanset hvad.

An international team of environmental scientists led by the University of Pennsylvania has shown that sea-level rise, at least in North Carolina, is accelerating. Researchers found 20th-century sea-level rise to be three times higher than the rate of sea-level rise during the last 500 years. In addition, this jump appears to occur between 1879 and 1915, a time of industrial change that may provide a direct link to human-induced climate change.

Klasse!!!

Eksplosionen i CO2 intræffede efter anden verdens krig, men altså
"this jump appears to occur between 1879 and 1915"

Men forskellen i CO2 i atmosfæren fra 1915 til 2009 er altså ikke perioden for "this jump". Sagen er BØF: Endnu et klart bevis for CO2-hypotesen



Redigeret d. 29-10-2009 10:12
29-10-2009 12:07
Mitchew
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Fra Lord Moncktons igangværende USA tourné:

- "Copenhagen Treaty establishes a series of interlocking, technical panels that will have the right directly to intervene in the economies and the environments of individual countries over the heads of their elected governments"

http://www.rightsidenews.com/200910206919/energy-and-environment/glenn-beck-interviews-lord-monckton-reveals-inconvenient-truth-about-copenhagen-treaty.html

- og mere fra samme skuffe:

- In relationship to the curtailment of freedom that the Copenhagen treaty would bring, Monckton quoted Thomas Jefferson: "I have sworn upon the altar of God eternal hostility against every tyranny over the mind of man." "How much worse," his Lordship elaborated, "is a tyranny over the countries of the world - a centralized, bureaucratic tyranny, which is effectively what this treaty would set up - purely for political purpose."

http://www.rightsidenews.com/200910267002/energy-and-environment/lord-moncktons-debut-on-b-cast-puts-another-nail-in-copenhagens-coffin.html
07-11-2009 13:10
Frank Lansner
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Oxford university citeret af Times:

"Experts say that fears surrounding climate change are overblown"

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/science/article6905082.ece
24-11-2009 08:54
manse42
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George Monbiot on his personal blog:

I apologise. I was too trusting of some of those who provided the evidence I championed. I would have been a better journalist if I had investigated their claims more closely.

eller det er noget han burde have sagt
Redigeret d. 24-11-2009 09:27
24-11-2009 08:57
Frank Lansner
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Og også:
George Monbiot, ellers stor global warming tilhænger, Australien:
It's no use pretending that this isn't a major blow. The emails extracted by a hacker from the climatic research unit at the University of East Anglia could scarcely be more damaging(1). I am now convinced that they are genuine, and I'm dismayed and deeply shaken by them.
24-11-2009 17:56
GLARProfilbillede★★★★☆
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>>EVER since I have been scrutinizing political events, I havetaken a tremendous interest in propagandist activity. I saw that the Socialist-Marxistorganizations mastered and applied this instrument with astounding skill.And I soon realized that the correct use of propaganda is a true art whichhas remained practically unknown to the bourgeois parties. Only the Christian-Socialmovement, especially in Lueger's time, achieved a certain virtuosity onthis instrument, to which it owed many of its successes.<<

Hvem skrev disse ord ?
24-11-2009 18:09
Kosmos
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Hvem skrev disse ord ?

- såmænd 'der Adolf'! Men jeg tilstår flux at have 'snydt' (= googlet citatet)!
28-11-2009 23:22
rick_uk
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....global cooling has not occurred even over the past ten years, contrary to claims promoted by lobby groups and picked up in some media. In the NASA global temperature data, the past ten 10-year trends (i.e. 1990-1999, 1991-2000 and so on) have all been between 0.17 and 0.34 °C warming per decade, close to or above the expected anthropogenic trend, with the most recent one (1999-2008) equal to 0.19 °C per decade. The Hadley Center data most recently show smaller warming trends (0.11 °C per decade for 1999-2008) primarily due to the fact that this data set is not fully global but leaves out the Arctic, which has warmed particularly strongly in recent years.

Kilde: The Copenhagen Diagnosis side 15 (november 2009)


Vh rick

Vi har hørt varslerne. Klokken tikker....Informerede valg.
29-11-2009 00:09
Kosmos
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Kilde: The Copenhagen Diagnosis side 15

- virkelig? Ja, må det jo passe - selvom Kevin Trenberth åbenbart ikke har hørt det (endnu?)!

Det kunne jo også være, de havde brugt nogle af Phil Jones' "hide the decline"-data?
29-11-2009 09:39
rick_uk
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Jeps, fra nu af kan alle klima skeptiker/fornægter (med 'beviserne' om sandheden fra de hackede mails bag sig) møde ALLE argumenter for de menneskerskabte klimaændringer (ACC) med: "Jeg VIL IKKE nære eller tror på hverken deres data eller deres konklusioner"

KILDE
29-11-2009 22:22
Jais Hammerlund
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Professor Stephen H. Schneider, kommer her med flere citat venlige udtalelser i introduktionen af sin nye bog.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rIy0Srvb1Y

msraaschou skrev:
"We are talking about changing the profile of risk, not
waiting for absolute truth – because absolute truth
will not happen until the earth performs the experiment
of telling us what we are doing, and by then it is too late
to stop it."

Professor Stephen H. Schneider, klimatolog ved Stanford University


Afskrevet fra et radiointerview, så jeg er lidt usikker på kommateringen. Kan desværre ikke finde link til interviewet, da det er over et år siden jeg skrev det ned.

Redigeret d. 29-11-2009 22:23
29-11-2009 23:27
Kosmos
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Professor Stephen H. Schneider, kommer her med flere citat venlige udtalelser

- her er så endnu en 'citat venlig udtalelse' fra professoren:

On the one hand, as scientists we are ethically bound to the scientific method, in effect promising to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but - which means that we must include all the doubts, the caveats, the ifs, ands and buts. On the other hand, we are not just scientists but human beings as well. And like most people, we'd like to see the world a better place, which in this context translates into our working to reduce the risk of potentially disastrous climate change. To do that, we need to get some broad-based support, to capture the public's imagination. That, of course, entails getting loads of media coverage. So we have to offer up scary scenarios, make simplified, dramatic statements, and make little mention of any doubts we might have. This 'double ethical bind' we frequently find ourselves in cannot be solved by any formula. Each of us has to decide what the right balance is between being effective and being honest.I hope that means being both)


'Hockey Stick-supporterne' har måske ladet sig inspirere en anelse for meget heraf?
30-11-2009 00:33
Morten Riber
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rick_uk skrev:
Jeps, fra nu af kan alle klima skeptiker/fornægter (med 'beviserne' om sandheden fra de hackede mails bag sig) møde ALLE argumenter for de menneskerskabte klimaændringer (ACC) med: "Jeg VIL IKKE nære eller tror på hverken deres data eller deres konklusioner"

KILDE


KILDE
30-11-2009 19:54
rick_uk
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Peter Laut, Professor (emeritus) of physics at The Technical University of Denmark. Fra et brev (nov. 2009) sendt til RealClimate: Something Is X in the State of Denmark

The solar theory apparently has a strong emotional appeal to an important segment of the public...The myth – describing a small group of ingenious scientists, who have arrived at the ultimate truth about climate, who have identified the sun as the mighty culprit, and who are shunned by a stubborn, envious establishment of old, narrow-minded professors – has a strong appeal to many. It is good stuff for an artistic film maker. It can be molded into a moving story – mixing images of lonely heroes, brave, fighting underdogs, with beautiful pictures of the sun and clouds. And it turns out that neither the filmmaker nor the audience can be influenced by being told that the solemnly presented graphs on the screen are rigged.

(Fed skrift min) KILDE


Vh rick

Vi har hørt varslerne. Klokken tikker....Informerede valg.
30-11-2009 22:21
Kosmos
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Peter Laut, Professor (emeritus) of physics at The Technical University of Denmark...

- han føler vel stadig moralsk forpligtelse til at retfærdiggøre de lobbyist-honorarer, han modtog fra Auken:

Peter Laut hjalp i løbet af det år med at skrive flere kronikker for Svend Auken, lige som han bistod med at besvare spørgsmål fra Folketinget. Ifølge sin opgørelse til Energistyrelsen brugte han 100 timer til kronikkerne og en række mindre opgaver. Opgaver for Jesper Gundermann og svar til Folketing, minister og offentlighed kostede 400 timer. Sammenlagt løb arbejdet som rådgiver – eller lobbyist – op i 1.100 timer for 1999, men Energistyrelsen blev kun præsenteret for en regning på de aftalte 500 timer. Også de følgende år brugte Laut langt flere end de 500 timer, der var aftalt. I 2000 deltog Peter Laut som forsker sammen med Jesper Gundermann blandt andet i den første europæiske videnskabelige konference om Solen og Jordens klima på Tenerife. Her gik Laut fra talerstolen til frontalangreb på solteoretikerne. En af Danmarks førende forskere på området, professor Eigil Friis-Christensen, blev beskyldt for at vildlede om sammenhængen mellem Solen og Jordens klima, og ifølge Henrik Svensmark, der var til stede, var beskyldningerne »ekstremt pinlige«.
»Det var meget usædvanligt. Tonen var fuldstændig skinger,« siger Henrik Svensmark. Peter Lauts regning til Energistyrelsen lød på i alt 320 timers arbejde med konferencen og en efterfølgende videnskabelig artikel om emnet.

Redigeret d. 30-11-2009 22:21
30-11-2009 22:29
Kosmos
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Om den siden afdøde Gundermann beretter ovennævnte artikel videre:

I filmen »Dommedag aflyst« fra 2004 besøgte Lars Mortensen sammen med en forsker Maldiverne, som ifølge den menneskelige drivhusteori er ved at synke i havet. Men ifølge filmen viste det sig, at vandstanden ved Maldiverne ikke er steget, men faldet. To dage før filmen overhovedet blev sendt, blev Lars Mortensen kontaktet på mail af Jesper Gundermann, der nu var embedsmand i Miljøstyrelsen. Gundermann antydede, at Lars Mortensens drivhuskritiske film var blevet betalt af olieindustrien, at journalisten altså var korrumperet, lige som Gundermann som repræsentant for Miljøstyrelsen forudså, at Mortensen ikke ville få nogen stor fremtid som journalist. Enden på dén historie blev en personlig undskyldning til Lars Mogensen fra den da nytiltrådte miljøminister Connie Hedegaard og Miljøstyrelsens direktør, der indledte disciplinære skridt mod Gundermann.

- ridderen uden frygt og dadel?
04-12-2009 22:33
rick_uk
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Bjørn Lomborg "den verdensberømte klimaforsker"
:

Topmødet vil desværre nok ende med en politisk aftale, hvor alle lover, at de nok skal skære i deres CO2-udledning. Men det vil være det ringest mulige udbytte af konferencen. For det vil få alle til at føle, at nu har man gjort noget rigtig godt for planeten. Men det har vi reelt ikke, for vi vil bare mødes igen i 2019 og sige: Nå, vi fik ikke nedbragt CO2-udslippet, som vi havde lovet. For sådan er det endt efter både Rio i 1992 og Kyoto i 1997

Så man kan argumentere for, at hvis vi får endnu en aftale, der ikke vil virke, så vil verden ikke opdage, at den taktik, vi har brugt de seneste 20 år, er fejlslagen. Og så fortsætter vi endnu 10 år, før vi gør noget, der virker. I den sammenhæng kunne det være en god ting, hvis der kom en fiasko ud af København. Ikke af skadefrohed, men fordi en fiasko kunne få alle til at vågne op og sige: måske skal vi finde en smartere og mere realistisk løsning

Kilde: JP


James Hansen. Director of Nasa's Goddard Institute for Space Studies in New York:

The fraudulence of the Copenhagen approach – "goals" for emission reductions, "offsets" that render ironclad goals almost meaningless, the ineffectual "cap-and-trade" mechanism – must be exposed. We must rebel against such politics as usual.

Governments going to Copenhagen claim to have such goals [se artikelen] for 2050, which they will achieve with the "cap-and-trade" mechanism. They are lying through their teeth.

Are we going to stand up and give global politicians a hard slap in the face, to make them face the truth? It will take a lot of us – probably in the streets. Or are we going to let them continue to kid themselves and us and cheat our children and grandchildren?

Kilde


Vh rick

Vi har hørt varslerne. Klokken tikker....Informerede valg.
08-12-2009 07:34
rick_uk
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Professor Kevin Anderson, Director of the Tyndall Centre for Climate Change Research at the University of Manchester. "One of the world's leading experts on CO2 emissions rates":

If Copenhagen is to have any chance of kick-starting a global movement to stay below the 2 degrees C characterisation of dangerous climate change, it must inspire and instigate a rapid shift away from the current political and economic consensus.

The first challenge, he says, is to get political buy-in to what the science is saying in relation to, at least, a 50:50 chance of not exceeding 2 degrees C.

In brief, wealthy (OECD) nations need to peak emissions by around 2012, achieve at least a 60 per cent reduction in emissions from energy by 2020, and fully decarbonise their energy systems by 2030 at the latest.

Alongside this, the 'industrialising' nations (non-OECD) need to peak their collective emissions by around 2025 and fully decarbonise their energy systems by 2050.


This scale of reductions is presently far removed from that which the negotiators in Copenhagen are intending to consider.


The Met Office's Hadley Centre for climate prediction and research said that if global emissions peaked in 2015 or 2016 and then declined annually at a rate of four per cent, there would be a 50-50 chance – but no more than that – of keeping the rise in temperatures to two degrees, the goal upon which much of the world's climate policy is premised.

KILDE: Greenhouse gas cuts just 'token gestures' (7/12-09)


Vh rick

Vi har hørt varslerne. Klokken tikker....Informerede valg.
14-12-2009 21:33
rick_uk
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Mike Hulme. Har drevet klimaforskning i 28 år, har grundlagt det respekterede britiske Tyndall Centre for Climate Change Research, er fremtrædende medlem af FN's klimapanel og i dag professor ved University of East Anglia.

Om COP15:

Der er investeret så megen politisk kapital i Københavns-mødet, at jeg da tror, der kommer en tekst med hensigtserklæringer om reduktion af udledninger i i- og u-lande.

De institutionelle mekanismer til at håndhæve, at parterne efterlever målene, er imidlertid yderst svage.

Hertil kommer, at alle reduktionsløfter skal godkendes af hjemlige parlamenter, og mange steder vil det ikke ske. Det australske parlament har allerede afvist forslag til lovgivning én gang, Obama får enorme problemer med at få det gennem Senatet i USA osv. Personligt har jeg ikke meget håb om, at dette bringer klimaforandringerne under kontrol

KILDE: Information: "'En København- aftale betyder ikke meget for klimaet'"


Vh rick

Vi har hørt varslerne. Klokken tikker....Informerede valg.
14-12-2009 23:44
sg17a
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rick_uk skrev:

KILDE: Information: "'En København- aftale betyder ikke meget for klimaet'"


Jeg faldt over dette i selvsamme artikel. Lidt ligesom montreal protokollen (om Ozon-nedbrydende gasse) - Det kan jeg godt se det fornuftige i.


Han påpeger, at de forskellige klimapåvirkende faktorer er af forskellig karakter, har forskellige kilder og årsager og kræver forskellige løsningsstrategier. Hver drivhusgas forudsætter f.eks. forskellige løsninger. Metan handler om landbrug, CO2 handler om energi, sodpartikler handler om dieselmotorer og brændekomfurer.



~thomas wernberg
Redigeret d. 14-12-2009 23:45
17-12-2009 21:06
Frank Lansner
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Et flygtigt glimt af de oprørte demonstranter mod global warming ved COP15:

(Pic: Tom Fuller)


Vindmøller er IN!! Vedvarende energi er IN!!!
Men vi må aldrig ofre ærlig og åben videnskab - heller ikke når det gælder klima.
18-12-2009 00:22
Frank Lansner
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Dert er Greenpeace der opsøger skibe og sætter bannere op etc. Ik?
Ikke uden humor er nogle begyndt at opsøge greenpeace skibe for at lave aktioner:



Gad vide hvad den etablerede Greenpeace organisation tænker når nogen pludseligt vender det hele på hovdevet??



Vindmøller er IN!! Vedvarende energi er IN!!!
Men vi må aldrig ofre ærlig og åben videnskab - heller ikke når det gælder klima.
20-12-2009 10:25
manse42
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Gandhi:

First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.

Redigeret d. 20-12-2009 10:25
26-01-2010 01:18
Frank Lansner
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Proessor Pitmann, Lead Author for IPCC 2001 + 2007:
"Climate scientists are losing the fight with the sceptics

The sceptics are so well funded, so well organised. They have nothing else to do. They don't have day jobs so they can put all their efforts into misinforming and miscommunicating climate science to the general public, whereas the climate scientists have day jobs and [managing publicity] actually isn't one of them."


http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/01/25/2800992.htm
26-01-2010 11:40
Morten Riber
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"Climate scientists are losing the fight with the sceptics

The sceptics are so well funded, so well organised. They have nothing else to do. They don't have day jobs so they can put all their efforts into misinforming and miscommunicating climate science to the general public, whereas the climate scientists have day jobs and [managing publicity] actually isn't one of them."


Ja sikken noget sludder. Fakta er det jo lige omvendt. Af dem der beskæftiger sig med klima er AGW tilhængere jo netop dem der i høj grad er lønnet. De har da selv travlt med at påpege at alverdens vigtige videnskabsmænd går ind for teorien.

Forlaringen er snarre den at de savner svar på vores spørgsmål og forklaring på deres påstande og så ander de ikke hvad de naturligvis ikke hvad de skal stille op. Man forfalder næsten til at have medlidenhed med de stakler.
29-01-2010 01:05
Frank Lansner
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Obama, her et citat:
http://factsnotfantasy.blogspot.com/2010/01/congress-laughed-at-president.html
Eller er det senatets "citat" der er interessant?
30-01-2010 16:34
rick_uk
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Et eksempel af hvad man kan læse i dagspressen som opsummering af de sidste måneders diverse klima '-gates' begivenheder:

Despite the sceptics' best efforts, for example, the basic edifice of global- warming science remains intact. Nothing in the so-called Climategate emails damages it.....

The scientists' disgraceful failure to comply with the Freedom of Information Act and the Himalayan glacier debacle are much more serious. One was rightly condemned by the Information Commissioner last week; the other reveals sloppiness at the IPCC. But again, neither touches the basic science; the Himalayan howler concerns a predicted effect of global warming, rather than the climate change itself. The obituaries of the science proclaimed daily by sceptics so far are not even premature.

Fed min. KILDE: Climate change: sailing through the perfect storm (TELEGRAPH (29/1-10)


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I 'SCIENTIFIC AMERICAN':

In fact, nothing in the stolen material undermines the scientific consensus that climate change is happening and that humans are to blame. "Heat-trapping properties can be verified by any undergraduate in any lab," notes climate scientist Katharine Hayhoe of Texas Tech University. "The detection of climate change, and its attribution to human causes, rests on numerous lines of evidence." They include melting ice sheets, retreating glaciers, rising sea levels and earlier onset of spring, not to mention higher average global temperatures.

Even if the CRU data "were dismissed as tainted, it would not matter," argues IPCC contributor Gary Yohe of Wesleyan University. "CRU is but one source of analysis whose conclusions have been validated by other researchers around the world." Other sources include NASA's Goddard Institute for Space Studies, the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration's National Climatic Data Center, and even the IPCC, all of which provide access to raw data.

Fed min. KILDE: Negating "Climategate": Copenhagen Talks and Climate Science Survive Stolen E-Mail Controversy (February 2010)


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