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Nordpolen er blevet til en ø

Det skriver tre engelske aviser uafhængigt af hinanden på deres hjemmesider i dag.

Isen smelter nu så meget, at både Nordøst- og Nordvestpassagen åbner hver sommer.

An increase in the atmosphere's concentration of carbon dioxide is also a climate forcing: it leads to a situation in which the planet absorbs more solar radiation than it emits to space as longwave radiation. This means the system gains energy. The globally average temperature must increase as a result. This is in accord with a fundamental principle of physics, known as the First Law of Thermodynamics. This law cannot be violated. As humans burn fossil fuels, adding carbon dioxide to the atmosphere, globally average temperature rises as a result.

Greenhouse gases emitted through human activities and the resulting increase in global mean temperatures are the most likely underlying cause of the sea ice decline, but the direct cause is a complicated combination of factors resulting from the warming, and from climate variability. The Arctic Oscillation (AO) is a see-saw pattern of alternating atmospheric pressure at polar and mid-latitudes. The positive phase produces a strong polar vortex, with the mid-latitude jet stream shifted northward. The negative phase produces the opposite conditions. From the 1950s to the 1980s, the AO flipped between positive and negative phases, but it entered a strong positive pattern between 1989 and 1995. So the acceleration in the sea ice decline since the mid 1990s may have been partly triggered by the strongly positive AO mode during the preceding years (Rigor et al. 2002 and Rigor and Wallace 2004) that flushed older, thicker ice out of the Arctic, but other factors also played a role

Atlantic Multidecadial Oscillation

An increase in the atmosphere's concentration of carbon dioxide is also a climate forcing: it leads to a situation in which the planet absorbs more solar radiation than it emits to space as longwave radiation. This means the system gains energy. The globally average temperature must increase as a result. This is in accord with a fundamental principle of physics, known as the First Law of Thermodynamics. This law cannot be violated.

Det blev vist for 100 år siden at CO2-effekten så godt som mættes allerede ved 20 ppm, 50 ppm

Experts could dismiss the hypothesis because they found Arrhenius's calculation implausible on many grounds...A still weightier objection came from a simple laboratory measurement. A few years after Arrhenius published his hypothesis (1896), another scientist in Sweden, Knut Ångström, asked an assistant to measure the passage of infrared radiation through a tube filled with carbon dioxide. The assistant ("Herr J. Koch," otherwise unrecorded in history) put in rather less of the gas in total than would be found in a column of air reaching to the top of the atmosphere. The assistant reported that the amount of radiation that got through the tube scarcely changed when he cut the quantity of gas back by a third. Apparently it took only a trace of the gas to "saturate" the absorption — that is, in the bands of the spectrum where CO2 blocked radiation, it did it so thoroughly that more gas could make little difference.

Nu har CO2-lejren haft over 100 år til at stampe op med en rigtig god og fornuftig forklaring/bevisførelse. Og hvis det ikke er tid nok, hvor lang tid skal man så have?

Den blev så søgt genoplivet i 1950´erne idet man opdagede at CO2 spektret ændrede sig lidt ved lavere tryk som vi har højere i atmosfæren. På den måde var CO2 deroppe mere fri af H2O spektret, og der var en teoretisk mulighed for at CO2 kunne absorbere noget stråling alligevel. Se, det er jo en 100% god sund iagtagelse, helt i orden set med videnskabelige briller.
Da 2 + 2 stadig var 4 fra CO2 lejren gjorde man derfor klart at man forventede denne lidt varmere luft skulle kunne ses ca 10 km oppe og specielt over troperne. HOTSPOT.
Men naturens verden har IKKE leveret en sådan opvarmning af disse luftlag tvært imod, disse luftlag er kølet lidt ned.
Med andre ord, det er intet der tyder på at CO2 har en nævneværdig effekt hverken ved jordoverfladen (som vist for 100 år siden) eller i de højere luftlag.

"If he can come to the defense of lawbreakers in the name of his global warming cause, then it is an even easier jump to allow that same bias to creep into scientific data he is responsible for and his conclusions drawn from that data."

"If you're paid to find something, you're going to find it,"

An examination of warming and cooling trends over the last 400 years shows an "almost exact correlation" between all of the known climate changes that have occurred and solar energy transmitted to the Earth, while showing "no correla-tion at all with CO2," Don J. Easterbrook, a geologist with Western Washington University in Bellingham, Wash., told CNSNews.com.

Ifølge IPCCs egne beregninger er den direkt drivhuseffekt effekt af en fordobling af CO2 mindre end 5% af den totale opvarmning 2,7 grader. Altså mindre end 0,15 grader. Resten af temperaturstigningen stammer fra + ve forcings. Altså f.eks. en stigning i hav temperaturen ville medføre øget vand i atmosfæren og vand (som vi ved) er en meget farlig drivhusgas.

Det er de positive og negative forcings som der er meget usikkerhed omkring.

Du aner intet om CO2, du tror bare på the IPCC.

In 2004, he wrote an article in the Daily Mail in which he described the theory of man-made global warming as "poppycock" [4]. A letter he published in New Scientist (16 April 2005) asserted that a large percentage (555 of 625) of the glaciers being observed by the World Glacier Monitoring Service were advancing, not retreating. George Monbiot of The Guardian tracked down Bellamy's original source for this information and found that it was Fred Singer's website. Singer claimed to have obtained these figures from a 1989 article in the journal Science, but to date this article has not been found.[5] Bellamy has since admitted that the figures on glaciers were wrong, and announced in a letter to The Sunday Times on 29 May 2005 [6] that he had "decided to draw back from the debate on global warming" [7]. However he has not withdrawn his assertions about the causes of global warming.

In October 2006, the New Zealand Herald reported that Bellamy had joined the New Zealand Climate Science Coalition, a group of scientists trying to refute what they believe are unfounded claims about man-made global warming[9].

Tilfører man så H2O til en ørken, så opfattes dette som tiltrængt og naturligtligt, men tilføres CO2 så vil mange gerne se det som noget forkert eller unaturligt.

Mens jeg indrømmer at jeg kan ikke husk eller finde de 5% jeg talte om, må jeg pointere at jeg talte ikke om C02 forcing uden andre forcings eller feedbacks, men om dens partial indvirkning på summen - altså temperatur stigningen.

Ifølge IPCCs egne beregninger er den direkt drivhuseffekt effekt af en fordobling af CO2........

.......an idealised 'black body' (which gives of radiation in a very uniform and predictable way as a function of temperature - encapsulated in the Stefan-Boltzmann equation) has a basic sensitivity (at Earth's radiating temperature) of about 0.27 °C/(W/m2).

That is, a change in radiative forcing of about 4 W/m2 would give around 1°C warming.

"If you're a young person looking at the future of this planet and looking at what is being done right now, and not done, I believe we have reached the stage where it is time for civil disobedience to prevent the construction of new coal plants that do not have carbon capture and sequestration,"

Christoffer Bugge Harder skrev:
Kun for planter, der vokser steder med rigelige mængder lys, vand og næring, vil co2 for alvor betyde en markant forskel for væksten - og sådan er forholdene kun meget få steder i den virkelige natur.

Scientists are literally forced to include sentences in their papers that indicate their support of AGW, even if these sentences are non-sequiturs, or even if they conflict with the overall thrust of the paper.Lintzen.

Har ikke fået læst Lintzens artikel, men det passer ok her...

Polar bears resort to cannibalism as Arctic ice shrinks

Frank dog! Du har jo fået at vide af CBH, at Lindzen er utroværdig, beregnende og generelt misliebig!

G Lean: Global warming is three times faster than worst predictions.

ABSTRACT: A recent report of the U.S. Climate Change Science Program (CCSP) identified a 'potentially serious inconsistency' between modelled and observed trends in tropical lapse rates (Karl et al., 2006). Early versions of satellite and radiosonde datasets suggested that the tropical surface had warmed more than the troposphere, while climate models consistently showed tropospheric amplification of surface warming in response to human-caused increases in well-mixed greenhouse gases (GHGs). We revisit such comparisons here using new observational estimates of surface and tropospheric temperature changes. We find that there is no longer a serious discrepancy between modelled and observed trends in tropical lapse rates.

From the neo-Malthusianism of the Club of Rome to Y2K to bird flu pandemics, modern society has demonstrated that, despite the triumph of reason over belief in the Enlightenment (and the enormous improvements in human welfare it brought) it has more in common with the apocalypticism of numerous millenarian movements than it would readily admit.

I 2006 var Danmarks udledninger to pct. højere end basisår-niveauet, et godt stykke over målet på minus 21 pct. for perioden 2008-12. Ifølge Danmarks fremskrivninger vil udledningerne med de eksisterende politikker og virkemidler falde til et gennemsnitsniveau på to pct. under basisår-udledningerne i perioden 2008-12

Det er simpelthen ikke korrekt, at Danmark ikke når sit Kyoto-mål

Når Miljøagenturet overser de ekstra tiltag i den danske allokeringsplan, som f.eks. kvotestramningen for de kvoteomfattede virksomheder i 2008-2012, og heller ikke har medtaget de opdaterede beregninger af effekten af energiaftalen, ja så bliver konklusionen jo også skæv og forkert

Indtil nu har projekter udenfor EU fungeret som en nem og billig metode at reducere CO2-udledning på ude i stedet for hjemme, og samtidig opnå de reduktionskrav, der er afsat til det enkelte land. Nu vil EU Parlamentet dog gøre det mere attraktivt at fokusere på reduktioner i eget land.

"The greatest challenge facing mankind is the challenge of distinguishing reality from fantasy, truth from propaganda. Perceiving the truth has always been a challenge to mankind, but in the information age (or as I think of it, the disinformation age) it takes on a special urgency and importance. We must daily decide whether the threats we face are real, whether the solutions we are offered will do any good, whether the problems we're told exist are in fact real problems, or non-problems. Every one of us has a sense of the world, and we all know that this sense is in part given to us by what other people and society tell us; in part generated by our emotional state, which we project outward; and in part by our genuine perceptions of reality. In short, our struggle to determine what is true is the struggle to decide which of our perceptions are genuine, and which are false because they are handed down, or sold to us, or generated by our own hopes and fears."

"The greatest challenge facing mankind is the challenge of distinguishing reality from fantasy, truth from propaganda. Perceiving the truth has always been a challenge to mankind, but in the information age (or as I think of it, the disinformation age) it takes on a special urgency and importance. We must daily decide whether the threats we face are real, whether the solutions we are offered will do any good, whether the problems we're told exist are in fact real problems, or non-problems. Every one of us has a sense of the world, and we all know that this sense is in part given to us by what other people and society tell us; in part generated by our emotional state, which we project outward; and in part by our genuine perceptions of reality. In short, our struggle to determine what is true is the struggle to decide which of our perceptions are genuine, and which are false because they are handed down, or sold to us, or generated by our own hopes and fears."

kulden-varmen skrev:

jeg tror at du stiller for store krav til mine engelsk kundskaber!