Koldere vejr i sigte?

Danmark har i år oplevet generelt lavere temperaturer end vi har vænnet os til. Faktisk skal vi helt tilbage til 1996 for at finde et koldere år

Kosmos skrev:
Nyt fra DMI (med lav profil?):

Danmark har i år oplevet generelt lavere temperaturer end vi har vænnet os til. Faktisk skal vi helt tilbage til 1996 for at finde et koldere år

Det knapt så lune år i Danmark står i skarp kontrast til den globale temperatur. Her er vi med næsten med sikkerhed i top-3 og med mindre de sidste tre måneder ender kølige, tegner 2010 til at blive det varmeste år, der nogensinde er målt på kloden.

Najj. De slutter jo af sådan her:...

The year's winter is predicted to be an extremely cold one, even in the previously warm south of China. Climate change is forcing cold fronts further south every year. Before long, the street will be full of down coats.

"Winter in South China is becoming long and cold, and heating becomes an urgent concern. Previously, when winter temperatures in southern cities mostly stayed above zero degrees and there was little snow, people could make do with electric heaters.
But the snowstorms and sudden freezes that plagued the South in 2008 showed people that winter there is no longer that easy to cope with. Maybe it's time for central heating to become standard in the South."

Jakob skrev:
Jeg har set på TV, at TV2 spår en kold og hård vinter, mens DMI spår en mild vinter.

Men er der ikke noget med en bølge ( hvad er det nu den hedder? ), som tegner tryksystemernes placering på halvkloden, og den bølge forskyder sig lidt fra år til år, og det var derfor sidste vinter blev hård i DK, mens det blev meget varmt på Grønland..?

ISIS skrev:
Ja, i artiklen skrives jo:

"Får vi en periode på bare få sammenhængende dage inden for de nærmeste uger med temperaturer pænt over frysepunktet, bliver sandsynligheden for en isvinter nemlig væsentligt mindre"

Så øv, der røg sandsynligheden for isvinter, ifølge artiklen og dig.

FRIDAY MORNING WHILE YOU WERE ASLEEP


ITS THE SUN VIS THE OCEAN AND TO HECK WITH THE CO2


The brawl for the winter in Europe is coming down to the enso signal which supports the reversal to a more normal to warm pattern in the north while the push of the cold southeast that is starting now more or less maintains itself and grows most harsh in mid winter, vis the low solar activity and perhaps some wild carding of volcanic activity from 2 winters ago in Siberia and Alaska, which is known to have a lag time in its reaction of several years.


In this winter folks, the last thing you are going to be worried about is warming from co2. While I wish no harm on anyone from the cold, perhaps the punishing cold that is growing more frequent in winter ( wait till the amo changes) will serve as a reminder to the masses to wake up, and not just have an agenda shoved down their throat by folks who think they know better. Of course alot of them have been in Cancun which though recently cooler than normal is not as bad as here.

However the guru of the sun and its possible effects , Piers Corbyn (you would be well advised to read this mans ideas, he is someone that though technically I compete with, I think ups the level of the playing field as far as the search for the right answer in the weather and climate. I respect and actually cherish people that will help up levels! I have no problem in complementing people like this, especially with some of the vitriol that is thrown his way sometimes) has really issued a startling and much colder look at the winter in the northwest than I have. Granted we have little argument further southeast, but its interesting to see tonights run of the ECMWF model try to re charge the blocking for one more go around mid December to mid Jan not only for Europe but for much of the eastern US. This certainly runs counter to my ideas which say we are going to break this and reverse it in the north. While I do think the sun plays a huge longer term role in the climate, the shorter term is not as clear to me, though it is part of my triple crown of cooling that I have been arguing will turn the tide perhaps in a dramatic fashion the next few decades. In any case its short term solar vs the enso.

Btw there is a La nina, at least here in the states, that occurred several years after the major Siberian Volcano of 1912, that was brutal here in the states. That was the winter of 1916-1917 and the SOI this year in the fall was as close to that as I have ever seen.

In closing, the words of Ian Anderson of Jethro Tull from Aqualung come to mind

Do you still remember, Decembers Foggy Freeze?

Written in the 70s, when there was talk of a coming ice age, no matter what they try to tell you


I wonder if Piers listens to any Tull?

ciao for now ***

Ja, så har nogle Polske FJOLSER snakket om at denne vinter kan blive kold... simpelthen på grund af olie udslip i den Mexicanske golf. Og så skulle det have kølet nordatlanten ned - via Golfstrømmen der skulle have sat ud pling in no time.

Nå, Her Joe bastardis skriv i dag

ISIS skrev:
jeg kan altså ikke gennemskue det om golfstrømmen.

Jakob skrev:
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ISIS skrev:
jeg kan altså ikke gennemskue det om golfstrømmen.

Det kan jeg heller ikke.
Kan man forestille sig, at global opvarmning fører til, at golfstrømmen bremses, så vi får istid i England og i Danmark, mens resten af kloden sveder..?

Det giver i så fald lidt at tænke over for de danskere, som går ind for global opvarmning, fordi de ønsker mere sommer i Danmark.

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ISIS skrev:
Ja, i artiklen skrives jo:

"Får vi en periode på bare få sammenhængende dage inden for de nærmeste uger med temperaturer pænt over frysepunktet, bliver sandsynligheden for en isvinter nemlig væsentligt mindre"

Så øv, der røg sandsynligheden for isvinter, ifølge artiklen og dig.

Christian hof christensen skrev:
Ja nu er det ikke usædvanligt med tø perioder i selv de koldeste isvintre, men kommer dog an på hvor længe vi har den tø periode.