Seneste blogindlæg om klimadebatten23-08-2013 07:31 | |
kristofferszilas★★★☆☆ (852) |
Her kan man linke til interessante blogindlæg om klimadebatten. Why Isn't It Warming? |
23-08-2013 12:20 | |
Kjeld Jul★★★★★ (3888) |
Citat af den japanske IPCC videnskabsmand Dr. Kiminori Itoh: " When people come to know what the truth is,they will feel decieved by science and scientists." http://www.climatedepot.com/2013/08/21/un-scientists-who-have-turned-on-unipcc-man-made-climate-fears-a-climate-depot-flashback-report/ Redigeret d. 23-08-2013 12:25 |
24-08-2013 17:05 | |
Kjeld Jul★★★★★ (3888) |
Hans von Storch har sammen med Eduard Zorita m.fl. formuleret et manuskript med flg. titel: Can climate models explain the recent stagnation in global warming.? Storch har i tidligere interviews udtalt sig i noget tvetydige vendinger om klimamodellernes validitet og prognoserne for fremtidens klima. H.v.S. har følt, at han er blevet fejlfortolket af flere medier - og måske er han af "Det øverste råd",IPCC,blevet presset til at korrigere og præcisere sine udtalelser,inden AR5 bliver præsenteret for politikerne og meningsdannerne sidst i september 2013. http://www.academia.edu/4210419/Can_climate_models_explain_the_recent_stagnation_in_global_warming Redigeret d. 24-08-2013 17:22 |
27-08-2013 20:28 | |
kristofferszilas★★★☆☆ (852) |
Retreating Alaskan Glacier Reveals Remains Of Medieval Forest "The Little Ice Age (LIA) was a time of global cooling from approximately 1350 to 1870 AD. During this time glaciers expanded in the northern regions, moving down the mountains and scouring the vegetation that had been in the valleys below. Park Service personnel recently discovered evidence of a buried forest dating back to at least 1170 AD high in the Forelands near the current glacier's edge." |
30-08-2013 15:11 | |
Boe Carslund-Sørensen★★★★★ (2942) |
http://voresomstilling.dk/ Energipolitik med omtanke er vigtig for at bevare det danske velfærdssamfund. |
01-09-2013 18:21 | |
Boe Carslund-Sørensen★★★★★ (2942) |
http://www.science.ku.dk/english/press/news/2013/climate-change/05 February 2013 Energipolitik med omtanke er vigtig for at bevare det danske velfærdssamfund. |
04-09-2013 13:24 | |
kristofferszilas★★★☆☆ (852) |
The Flip! August 2013 Sunspot Report "Conclusions Sunspot numbers jumped from a daily average of 57 in July to an average of 66 in August. The jump was due entirely to an increase in northern hemisphere activity. Southern activity remained steady compared to July. It is odd that a resurgent northern hemisphere stopped dead in its tracks for about a week in the middle of August. Why? Could it be that the polarity shift has already begun? The jump in August sunspot numbers is consistent with the sun's behavior during a polarity shift. The trend over the last three solar cycles has been for weaker 2nd half activity. This makes perfect sense given the general decline in sunspot magnetic field strength over time. A weaker 2nd half of Cycle 24 the most likely scenario. The most exciting part of the polarity shift is that afterward more indicators about the strength of Cycle 25 will begin to show up. We are at the beginning of a profound change in the sun. What it means and how it will affect climate change over the next decades is the biggest unknown in climate science today." |
04-09-2013 20:18 | |
kristofferszilas★★★☆☆ (852) |
Danish experiment suggests unexpected magic by cosmic rays in cloud formation "The result boosts our theory that cosmic rays coming from the Galaxy are directly involved in the Earth's weather and climate," says Henrik Svensmark, lead author of the new report. "In experiments over many years, we have shown that ionizing rays help to form small molecular clusters. Critics have argued that the clusters cannot grow large enough to affect cloud formation significantly. But our current research, of which the reported SKY2 experiment forms just one part, contradicts their conventional view. Now we want to close in on the details of the unexpected chemistry occurring in the air, at the end of the long journey that brought the cosmic rays here from exploded stars." Redigeret d. 04-09-2013 20:19 |
04-09-2013 23:14 | |
Frank123★★☆☆☆ (387) |
@kristofferszilas The most exciting part of the polarity shift is that afterward more indicators about the strength of Cycle 25 will begin to show up. We are at the beginning of a profound change in the sun. What it means and how it will affect climate change over the next decades is the biggest unknown in climate science today." Jeg er helt enig! Til belysning af min påstand: Der er mange emner inden for klimatologien og tilknytte videnskaber der er totalt ukendte eller total fejlfortolket. Her et eksempel: Jeg har tidligere svaret Delphi således: Ja det er måske en anelse svært det der med forudsigelser om solens fremtidige opførsel og dens indflydelse på vort klima. Tilbage i 2009 sendte jeg følgende oplysninger til en ven jeg deler astronomi interesse med: "Jeg har fulgt med blandt andet hos Nasa hvor en af verdens førende soleksperter David Hathaway skråsikkert har forudsagt at SC 24 vil starte juli 2004. Den vil blive meget voldsom med fare for store ødelæggelser her på jorden og blandt vore satellitter. Citat: David Hathaway: "Solens aktivitetsniveau har for øvrigt absolut ingen indflydelse på vort klima", så ved du det!!!! Kan vi så ikke bare slukke for den?: Nu har den gode Hathaway imidlertid udsat starten af SC 24 nogle gange. Således rykkede han starten fra: * Juli 2004 til * marts 2005 til * maj 2005 til * oktober2005 til * marts 2006 til * juli 2006 til * februar 2007 til * marts 2007 til * marts 2008 til * april 2008 til * juni 2008 til * september 2008 til * oktober 2008 til * april 2009 til * juli 2009 Hver gang er hans forudsigelser blevet ramt af solens evindelige fortsættelse af SC 23. Surt show. Nu er det ganske vist at SC 24 starter juli 2009 og den vil blive ekstrem lav. Nøjagtigt som forudsagt af David Hathaway. Voldsomt imponerende?" Som Storm P. udtrykte det: "Det er svært at spå, især om fremtiden" Det er ikke 10 år siden vi blev advaret af førende videnskabsfolk om en nært forestående faretruende voldsom aktiv sol og nu mindre end 10 år efter ser vi resultatet af den faretruende voldsomme aktive sol. Nu fortæller den samme Hathaway at solen er usædvanlig stille og gået i dvale. Der tales sågar i videnskabskredse om at vi er ved at bevæge os ind i et nyt Grand Minimum. Så meget for videnskabens PREDICTIONS. |
05-09-2013 16:42 | |
Kjeld Jul★★★★★ (3888) |
Hans von Storch svarer på spørgsmål om temperaturens stagnation,modelberegninger, IPCCs AR5 og naturlige klimapåvirkninger etc. Om forskningen omkring naturlige påvirkninger som, solens aktivitet og kosmisk stråling siger han :" in diese Bereiche ist weniger Hirnschmalz investiert worden durch die internationale Klimaforschung." http://klimazwiebel.blogspot.dk/2013/09/andreas-frey-in-der-fas-zum-hintergrund.html |
RE: Oversættelse05-09-2013 19:23 | |
kulden-varmen★★★★★ (2600) |
Kjeld Jul skrev: på disse områder mindre hjernekraft er blevet investeret af den internationale klimaforskning. |
07-09-2013 03:29 | |
kristofferszilas★★★☆☆ (852) |
Three Generations Of Data Tampering And Hiding The Decline |
07-09-2013 19:42 | |
kristofferszilas★★★☆☆ (852) |
Situationen i Danmark minder jo på mange måder om den som har fundet sted i Australien de sidste mange år: Abbott on the verge "The Coalition, led by Tony Abbott, is on the verge of regaining power after the worst six years of government in Australia's Federal history. The Rudd-Gillard-Rudd-again experiment proved to be the most untrustworthy, incompetent and arrogant administration one could conceivably imagine. Broken promises, failed policies, epic waste, smear, lies and corruption lay strewn in its wake. Labor's shabby deal with the Greens in 2010 was bought with a promise of urgent action on climate change, which gave Australia the most pointless emissions tax on the planet." Australian Election Today (Finally!) Rudd-Gillard government to go Labor set to fight Tony Abbott over carbon tax repeal "Mr Abbott promised he would do whatever was necessary to ''scrap the tax'' within his first year in government, even if it meant getting blocked in the Senate and sending Australians to another election through a double dissolution." |
08-09-2013 14:36 | |
kristofferszilas★★★☆☆ (852) |
kristofferszilas skrev: Tony Abbott instructs bureaucrats to prepare to axe carbon tax, stop boats PRIME Minister-elect Tony Abbott has personally instructed his new departmental secretary to make preparations to axe the carbon tax and activate Operation Sovereign Borders to stop asylum boats. |
10-09-2013 03:28 | |
kristofferszilas★★★☆☆ (852) |
How the MSM Talks About Climate Change |
10-09-2013 14:39 | |
sg17a★★☆☆☆ (378) |
Blogsiden starter med følgende citat, hvilket IMO sætter den politiske agenda over det videnskablige.The Coalition, led by Tony Abbott, is on the verge of regaining power after the worst six years of government in Australia's Federal history. kristofferszilas skrev: Man kan jo så vælge at være enig eller uenig... Tony Abbott instructs bureaucrats to prepare to axe carbon tax, stop boats ~thomas wernberg |
10-09-2013 14:44 | |
kristofferszilas★★★☆☆ (852) |
sg17a skrev: Ja, den om korruption passer vist ikke med situationen i Danmark, men ellers stemmer det vel meget godt? |
10-09-2013 22:22 | |
kristofferszilas★★★☆☆ (852) |
Australia rips up climate-change policies "Australia's landslide election result seems to be bad news for the climate. Following the election of a new government, Australia is to abolish its emissions trading scheme, disband a climate advisory body and institute a carbon reduction policy that experts say will fail to meet its meagre target." Jævnfør analogien til Danmark i denne DR dokumentar: Varm luft for milliarder |
12-09-2013 02:24 | |
kristofferszilas★★★☆☆ (852) |
Physicists claim further evidence of link between cosmic rays and cloud formation A Danish group that has reproduced the Earth's atmosphere in the laboratory has shown how clouds might be seeded by incoming cosmic rays. The team believes that the research provides evidence that fluctuations in the cosmic-ray flux caused by changes in solar activity could play a role in climate change. Other climate researchers, however, remain sceptical of the link between cosmic rays and climate. |
14-09-2013 14:28 | |
kristofferszilas★★★☆☆ (852) |
'Consensus' on climate change just a PR campaign In recent months it has been stated repeatedly that 97 per cent of scientists agree global warming is real and man-made. These claims are based on a paper published by a team led by John Cook in the journal Environmental Research Letters. The authors, all associated with controversial global warming activist website Skeptical Science, concluded that 97 per cent of papers expressing a view endorsed the "consensus" position that humans were causing global warming. The paper received an extraordinary reception, being downloaded more than 20,000 times in the first few days after it was published and receiving hundreds of citations from around the internet. ... There was therefore an asymmetry in the classifications, with papers accepting the influence of a large or an unspecified level of human influence included in the consensus, and only those actively minimising the human influence recorded as rejecting it. This leads to the unavoidable conclusion the consensus as revealed by Cook et al was indeed the shallow one. That consensus is therefore virtually meaningless and tells us nothing about the present state of scientific opinion, beyond the trivial observation that almost everybody in the climate debate agrees carbon dioxide is a greenhouse gas and human activities have warmed the planet to some extent. As Mike Hulme, founder of the Tyndall Centre, Britain's national climate research institute, put it: "The (Cook et al) article is poorly conceived, poorly designed and poorly executed (and it) obscures the complexities of the climate issue." The paper is, on close examination, a damp squib. |
15-09-2013 19:43 | |
kristofferszilas★★★☆☆ (852) |
Leaked IPCC report discussed in the MSM "I'm not sure what the IPCC expected when they leaked their report to 'friendly' journalists, but I suspect that it was not this article by David Rose People have been asking me to comment on the leaked IPCC Final Draft Summary for Policy Makers. Apparently someone in the IPCC made the Report available to 'friendly' journalists, as part of a strategy to brief them before the formal release of the Report. I have declined to comment until very recently, since I thought it was best to let the IPCC process play out. Now it is clear that the leaked report has made it into the hands of journalists that were not on the IPCC's 'friends' list. I have now seen a copy of the SPM, and I provided comments to David Rose (and also to another journalist, not sure when that will air). David Rose quotes me in his article (accurately). I provide below the complete text of the email response I sent to David Rose: —– What interests me the most about the AR5 report is how the IPCC is changing its positions and statements relative to the previous AR4 report. It is particularly interesting to see how the different drafts of the AR5 Summary for Policy Makers are changing. I am very grateful that these drafts have been leaked, as these drafts provide important insights into the reasoning behind the IPCC conclusions and confidence levels. The IPCC should of course change its conclusions and confidence levels in response to new scientific evidence and analyses. Because of the rapid pace of publication of papers over the past year that challenge aspects of the AR4 conclusions, the slow ponderous assessment process of IPCC has been apparently having difficulty in responding to and assessing all this, as evidenced by the substantial changes in the drafts. My main point is this. If there are substantial changes in a conclusion in the AR5 relative to a confident conclusion in the AR4, then the confidence level should not increase and should probably drop, since the science clearly is not settled and is in a state of flux." |
16-09-2013 14:52 | |
kristofferszilas★★★☆☆ (852) |
German Professor: "IPCC Science Finds Itself In A Serious Jam...5AR Likely To Be The Last Of Its Kind" And: "Extreme weather is the only card they have left to play." So says German Prof. Fritz Vahrenholt, who is one of the founders of Germany's modern environmental movement, and agreed to an interview with NoTricksZone. He is one of the co-authors of the German skeptic book "Die kalte Sonne", which took Germany by storm last year and is now available at bookstores worldwide in English under the title: The Neglected Sun. In Germany Prof. Vahrenholt has had to endure a lot heat from the media, activists and climate scientists for having written the book. But as global temperatures remain stagnant and CO2 climate sensitivity is being scaled back, he feels vindicated. Here's the interview |
17-09-2013 16:45 | |
kristofferszilas★★★☆☆ (852) |
What Global Warming? Real science is always provisional, open to correction, and tentative in its conclusions. Scientism on the other hand is an ideological stone – unmovable and inflexible. Thus real scientists will be open to evidence, while the true believers will allow ideology to trump the facts. We certainly see this played out in the global warming hype. For many this has simply become an article of faith. One must subscribe to anthropogenic global warming, or be hounded out of the public arena as a heretic and renegade. And this despite the fact that thousands of scientists don't buy the AGW hype. But you know things are really beginning to unravel when the big cheese groups pushing all this finally start admitting that they may have gotten things wrong. The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change is now finally admitting that their computer projections may have greatly overstated the case on global warming. |
17-09-2013 19:41 | |
kristofferszilas★★★☆☆ (852) |
A Turning Point for the IPCC...and Humanity? I usually don't comment on recently published climate research papers, partly because they rarely add much, and partly because other blogs do a pretty good job of covering them anyway. The reason why I say "they rarely add much" is that there are a myriad of theories that can be justified with some data, but rarely is the evidence convincing enough to hang your hat on them. One of the things I've learned in the climate research business is that it is really easy to be wrong, and really difficult to be right. There are many competing theories of what causes climate change, and they can't all be correct. |
19-09-2013 01:53 | |
kristofferszilas★★★☆☆ (852) |
A tipping point: Skepticism goes mainstream... Worldwide momentum is shifting. With David Rose's article in the Daily Mail, Matt Ridley in the Wall Street Journal ("We got it wrong on warming"), and the excellent article by Ross McKitrick in the Financial Post the skeptical message is going mainstream. The war is by no means over, but the race in media coverage has stepped up a notch. Now, for the first time there is an element of competition, serious newspapers don't want to be left behind. Editors have realized the skeptics have a case. |
19-09-2013 17:19 | |
Jørgen Petersen★★★★★ (4897) |
Hvad der er politisk korrekt (som vi vil sige på dansk) har stor betydning for hvordan både medierne og politikkerne behandler problemet. I 1990érne oplevede vi hvor den politiske holdning skiftede på flygtninge- og indvandreområdet her i landet. Det fik som bekendt stor betydning for den førte politik på dette område. Noget tilsvarende kan meget vel sket på CO2- og klimaområdet. Hvis ikke der fremover sker stigninger i den globale gennemsnitstemperatur, så er der kun et spørgsmål om tid, før dette holdningsskifte slår igennem. Jeg tør dog ikke sige noget konkret om hvor mange år der skal gå uden temperaturstigninger, før dette holdningsskifte slår igennem. Antageligt er der kun tale om relativt få år. Holdningsskiftet er jo allerede så småt ved at slå igennem. |
20-09-2013 22:46 | |
kristofferszilas★★★☆☆ (852) |
Peer review: the skeptic filter A few weeks ago, I ran a post Overestimated global warming over the past 20 years that referred to a recent paper published in Nature Climate Change by Fyfe et al. This paper starkly laid out the discrepancy between CMIP5 model projections and observations of global surface temperature change. This wasn't exactly news to those of us who follow the skeptical blogosphere; we have seen similar analyses by John Christy (presented in his Congressional testimony) and the analysis of Ed Hawkins that was made famous by David Rose's article. My blog post on the Fyfe et al. paper triggered an email from Pat Michaels, who sent me a paper that he submitted in 2010 to Geophysical Research Letters, that did essentially the same analysis as Fyfe et al., albeit with the CMIP3 models. |
25-09-2013 02:43 | |
kristofferszilas★★★☆☆ (852) |
Two Minutes to Midnight Conclusion No credence should be given to IPCC's last-minute attribution of the discrepancy to "natural variability". IPCC's ad hoc analysis purporting to support this claim does not stand up to the light of day. Gavin Schmidt excused IPCC's failure to squarely address the discrepancy between models and observations saying that it was "just ridiculous" that IPCC be "up to date": The idea that IPCC needs to be up to date on what was written last week is just ridiculous." But the problem not arise "last week". While the issue has only recently become acute, it has become acute because of accumulating failure during the AR5 assessment process, including errors and misrepresentations by IPCC in the assessments sent out for external review; the almost total failure of the academic climate community to address the discrepancy; gatekeeping by fellow-traveling journal editors that suppressed criticism of the defects in the limited academic literature on the topic. Whatever the ultimate scientific explanation for the pause and its implications for the apparent discrepancy between models and observations, policy-makers must be feeling very letdown by the failure of IPCC and its contributing academic community to adequately address an issue that is critical to them and to the public. That academics (e.g. Fyfe et al here; von Storch here) have finally begun to touch on the problem, but only after the IPCC deadline must surely add to their frustration. Von Storch neatly summarized the problem and calmly (as he does well) set it out as an important topic of ongoing research, but any investor in the climate research process must surely wonder why this wasn't brought up six years ago in the scoping of the AR5 report. One cannot help but wonder whether WG1 Chair Thomas Stocker might not have served the policy community better by spending more time ensuring that the discrepancy between models and observations was properly addressed in the IPCC draft reports, perhaps even highlighting research problems while there was time in the process, than figuring out how IPCC could evade FOI requests. |
27-09-2013 00:17 | |
Kosmos★★★★★ (5402) |
Faktabox fra artiklen "Climate sceptics claim warming pause backs their view":With around 20% of the country under sea level, the Dutch have a keen interest in anything that might affect their environment, such as climate change. |
27-09-2013 15:02 | |
kristofferszilas★★★☆☆ (852) |
95% (?) Ok, it is now official: "The long-term climate model simulations show a trend in global-mean surface temperature from 1951 to 2012 that agrees with the observed trend (very high confidence). There are, however, differences between simulated and observed trends over periods as short as 10 to 15 years" It is extremely likely that more than half of the observed increase in global average surface temperature from 1951 to 2010 was caused by the anthropogenic increase in greenhouse gas concentrations and other anthropogenic forcings together. The best estimate of the human induced contribution to warming is similar to the observed warming over this period. The IPCC has officially (and anti-climactically) issued the AR5 WG1 Summary for Policy Makers. I haven't had time to go through the report in detail, I mainly looked for these two statements. Note the changes in these two statements from the final draft discussed last week: "Models do not generally reproduce the observed reduction in surface warming trend over the last 10 –15 years." "It is extremely likely that human influence on climate caused more than half of the observed increase in global average surface temperature from 1951−2010." These changes as a result of the 'conclave' this week totally dissonates my cognitives. Well, IPCC has thrown down the gauntlet – if the pause continues beyond 15 years (well it already has), they are toast. Even though they still use the word 'most' in the attribution statement, they go all out and pretty much say it is all AGW: "The best estimate of the human induced contribution to warming is similar to the observed warming over this period." |
29-09-2013 11:08 | |
Kosmos★★★★★ (5402) |
Nogle interessante kommentarer til AR5 kan læses her. |
29-09-2013 16:39 | |
kulden-varmen★★★★★ (2600) |
kristofferszilas skrev:sg17a skrev: Lars Lykke har ellers sagt at det vigtig at holde partistøtten hemmelig fordi ellers er for folk som ikke vil stemme på et parti fordi det har fået støtte fra nogle som vælgeren ikke sympatisere med. Dels har vi i Danmark støtte mange korrupte folk i udlandet. |
01-10-2013 02:11 | |
kristofferszilas★★★☆☆ (852) |
IPCC's pause 'logic' JC summary "My original intention for this thread was to go through and try to map the IPCC's logical argument. I quickly got dizzy owing to seemingly unwarranted assumptions and incomplete information (such as: did the climate models use the correct external forcing for the first decade of the 21st century, or not?). I was then going to illustrate how any reasonable propagation of uncertainty of individual assertions/arguments through their main argument would produce much lower confidence in their overall conclusions. For example, they seem to have eliminated high CO2 sensitivity as a problem. Not to mention high confidence in increasing trend following 2012 (this high confidence comes right after blowing the prediction of the previous decade). And of course not to mention the relevant journal articles that didn't get mentioned. Apart from these obvious flaws, reading that text and trying to follow it is positively painful. Can someone remind me again how and why all this is supposed to be useful?" |
01-10-2013 17:27 | |
Kosmos★★★★★ (5402) |
Dagens kommentar fra Bishop Hill:The full text of the Fifth Assessment Report has been out for less than 24 hours and the tales of malfeasance are flowing already. Steve McIntyre has already blogged about some misleading behaviour by senior scientists involved in the review, but his post this morning is amazing, revealing how the discrepancy between climate models and observations was systematically hidden between the final review of the draft and the report issued to the public |
02-10-2013 01:28 | |
kristofferszilas★★★☆☆ (852) |
Kosmos skrev: Steve McIntyres blog IPCC: Fixing the Facts "Figure 1.4 of the Second Order Draft clearly showed the discrepancy between models and observations, though IPCC's covering text reported otherwise. I discussed this in a post leading up to the IPCC Report, citing Ross McKitrick's article in National Post and Reiner Grundmann's post at Klimazweiberl. Needless to say, this diagram did not survive. Instead, IPCC replaced the damning (but accurate) diagram with a new diagram in which the inconsistency has been disappeared." IPCC lader ikke til at være enig med Fyfe et al. (2013): Eller von Storch et al. (2013) for den sags skyld. |
02-10-2013 10:12 | |
Kosmos★★★★★ (5402) |
"Vi gider ikke høre om klimaet!":Men den almene "klimalede" i befolkningen og olie- og gasindustriens historiske jerngreb på verdensøkonomien er ikke det eneste, IPCC-forskerne skal kæmpe med for at få verden til at tage forskningen seriøst. Faktisk har der, i takt med at forskerne er blevet stadig mere sikre på, at den konstaterede globale opvarmning er menneskeskabt, rejst sig en stigende tvivl på, om man kan tro på det, klimaforskerne siger. |
02-10-2013 22:00 | |
kristofferszilas★★★☆☆ (852) |
Spinning the climate model – observation comparison: Part II "The Final Draft SMP made this statement about the model-observation comparison: "Models do not generally reproduce the observed reduction in surface warming trend over the last 10 –15 years." Much has been made of the lack of agreement between the model projections and observations, with the observations being perilously close to falling outside the entire range of model projections. I discussed this disagreement in my Congressional testimony (in context of Ed Hawkins' diagram). Fyfe et al. Overestimated global warming over the past 20 years (blog post last month) von Storch et al. Can climate models explain the recent stagnation in global warming? The final WG1 Report provides the following version of Figure 1.4:" |
04-10-2013 02:25 | |
kristofferszilas★★★☆☆ (852) |
Coverage of Extreme Events in the IPCC AR5 |
04-10-2013 08:06 | |
N A Nielsen★★★☆☆ (991) |
Jævnfør Szilas' link ovenfor, kan vi nu slippe for at høre om global opvarmning i forbindelse med enhver vejrbegivenhed, der ikke lige sker hver dag i Tølløse? IPCC siger altså, at det bør vi. Pielke jr: There is really not much more to be said here -- the data says what it says, and what it says is so unavoidably obvious that the IPCC has recognized it in its consensus. |
04-10-2013 11:33 | |
sg17a★★☆☆☆ (378) |
kristofferszilas skrev: Når man begynder at bruge betegnelsen 'Zombie-science' så falder argumentet et sted, hvor man selv benytter en primitiv form for argumentationer Det sjove er jo så at man gerne vil have at man tager det seriøst, men det er lidt svært, når det skinner igennem at den politiske agenda overgår den videnskablige. ~thomas wernberg Redigeret d. 04-10-2013 11:50 |
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